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Saturday, December 1, 2018

Rev 17 - The Scarlet Beast & the Woman



REVELATION 17 – THE SCARLET BEAST AND THE WOMAN

12-1-2018

Revelation 17:1-3 NET Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and spoke to me. "Come," he said, "I will show you the condemnation and punishment of the great prostitute who sits on many waters, (2) with whom the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality and the earth's inhabitants got drunk with the wine of her immorality."

(3) So he carried me away in the Spirit to a wilderness, and there I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was full of blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns.

The prostitute woman envisioned later as sitting (or riding) on the scarlet beast is said to “sit on many waters” meaning that her influence covers a large area – possibly the entire earth. V2 “the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality and the earth's inhabitants got drunk with the wine of her immorality”.  When John received this vision, the “kings of the earth” would include those of Europe, Asia, Near East, and North Africa but considering that Mystery Babylon is presently being taken down, it can safely be said that it includes the government leaders of the entire earth.

The leaders of the world and many individuals have committed sexual immorality through the influence of the woman (prostitute or Babylon).  Scripturally speaking idolatry (the worship of some type of false god) is considered the same sin as sexual immorality.

The reader is next introduced to the scarlet beast.  It had seven heads and ten horns, filled with blasphemous names.  The beast coming from the sea in Rev 13:1 also had ten horns and seven heads, and on its horns were ten diadem crowns, and on its heads a blasphemous name. Other than the crowns listed in Rev 13:1 and the scarlet color, the descriptions are basically the same.  It also was composed of several animals:  the beast that I saw was like a leopard, but its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth.

In Daniel 7:3 he envisioned:  Then four large beasts came up from the sea; they were different from one another”.  The first three beasts had the appearance of:  1) Lion with wings of an eagle 2) a bear 3) a leopard.  The beast in Rev 13:1 is a composite of the first three beasts of Daniel 7.  Daniel’s non-descriptive fourth beast had ten horns but among them came a “little horn” which uprooted three of the original ten horns.

One of the signs given in Rev 12:3 is a dragon:  Then another sign appeared in heaven: a huge red dragon that had seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadem crowns.  This dragon is red or scarlet with seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns, which is the same description as the beast in Rev 13:1

Other than a few occasional omissions, the scarlet beast of Rev 17 is the same as the beast (or dragon) in Rev 12 and Rev 13.  It is also a composite of the four beasts found in Daniel 7.

The wilderness location for the scarlet beast and the woman can create a certain amount of confusion:  Is this the same woman of chapter 12 that fled to the wilderness? Has this woman been seen before but was called by another name?  The word translated as “wilderness” can mean a desert area but it can also mean, desolate, deserted, and lonely.  Most likely the Rev 12 woman and the Rev 17 are not exactly the same but they may have common characteristics (i.e. the Rev 17 woman as representative of Mystery Babylon does contain certain religious or church related issues.

Revelation 17:4-7 NET Now the woman was dressed in purple and scarlet clothing, and adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls. She held in her hand a golden cup filled with detestable things (abominations) and unclean things from her sexual immorality. (5) On her forehead was written a name, a mystery: "Babylon the Great, the Mother of prostitutes and of the detestable things of the earth." (6) I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints and the blood of those who testified to Jesus. I was greatly astounded when I saw her. (7) But the angel said to me, "Why are you astounded? I will interpret for you the mystery of the woman and of the beast with the seven heads and ten horns that carries her.

The woman is dressed in purple and scarlet clothing, adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls, and holds a golden cup.  This symbolizes wealth and luxury.  It could also describe the clothing of the Pope or a Vatican official.  The woman is emblazoned with a specific name which is called a “mystery”:  "Babylon the Great, the Mother of prostitutes and of the detestable things (abominations) of the earth."  Thus, the woman is (symbolically) Babylon the Great and since her name was said to be a “mystery” she can also be known as Mystery Babylon.

The reference to golden cup in the woman’s hand is taken from Jer. 51: 7.  Mystery Babylon is considered to have the basic characteristics of the original Babylonian Empire.

Jeremiah 51:7 NET Babylonia had been a gold cup in the LORD's hand. She had made the whole world drunk. The nations had drunk from the wine of her wrath. So they have all gone mad.

In Rev 17:4 the woman’s golden cup was filled with detestable things or abominations.  An abomination is a Hebrew euphemism for an idol.

John was astounded and was chided by the angel for his astonishment.

Revelation 17:8-11 NET The beast you saw was, and is not, but is about to come up from the abyss and then go to destruction. The inhabitants of the earth -- all those whose names have not been written in the book of life since the foundation of the world -- will be astounded when they see that the beast was, and is not, but is to come. (9) (This requires a mind that has wisdom.) The seven heads are seven mountains the woman sits on. They are also seven kings: (10) five have fallen; one is, and the other has not yet come, but whenever he does come, he must remain for only a brief time. (11) The beast that was, and is not, is himself an eighth king and yet is one of the seven, and is going to destruction.

In Rev 13:1 one of the heads of the beast rising from the sea is itself a religious beast and has been previously identified as the Pope/Vatican/Roman Church.  The Vatican and its Roman Church is also part of the composite Mystery Babylon or the woman on the scarlet beast.  The daughters may be the Protestant denominations that have arisen since the printing of the Bible.  The great harlot is more than the church, but it certainly includes it.

Rev 17:8 The beast you saw was, and is not, but is about to come up from the abyss and then go to destruction. The inhabitants of the earth -- all those whose names have not been written in the book of life since the foundation of the world -- will be astounded when they see that the beast was, and is not, but is to come.

The concept of “the beast you saw was, and is not, but will exit the abyss” has already been explained in Rev 13:3 - One of the beast's heads appeared to have been killed, but the lethal wound had been healed.

The pope was actually taken captive by Napoleon and placed in prison where he died in 1798.  Later Napoleon considered a Pope necessary to conduct his emperor coronation, so he reinstated a person as pope in 1800.

This seems to indicate that the beast of Rev 13:1 is the dragon beast of Rev 12 or a composite of all the beast empires with one of the heads being the Holy Roman Empire which was an empire until the head (Pope) died in prison and was reinstated by Napoleon.

In Rev 17: 8, John describes the same beast, saying, “he was and is not and will come.” It is plain that we are to interpret this in terms of the event described earlier in Rev. 13: 3 One of the beast's heads appeared to have been killed, but the lethal wound had been healed.


Rev 17:8c then go to destruction
When the angel in Rev. 17: 11 says that the scarlet beast “goes to destruction” (apoleia), he was giving us a major clue as to the identity of the beast.  The angel is telling us that the beast from the sea (i.e. the religious beast) is the disciple and “friend” of Jesus who ends up betraying Him at the end of the age. This religious beast (Vatican/Papacy), then, is supposedly a Christian beast, even as Judas had been a Christian. 

This “friend” could also include the group of Zionist Christians who blindly claim that modern Israel is the fulfillment of various Old Testament prophecies concerning the northern nation of Israel that consisted of ten of the original twelve (13 counting the Levites) tribes.

Most Bible teachers tend to get lost in these details, because they do not know history, and even if they did, many of them are Futurists. Thus, they can only speculate about future things, not knowing that much of the prophecy has already been fulfilled. This only adds to the confusion and usually makes it virtually impossible to understand the prophecy about this scarlet beast.

 (9) (This requires a mind that has wisdom.) The seven heads are seven mountains the woman sits on.

Much debate has been spent identifying the seven mountains mentioned in verse 9.  Rome is identified with 7 mountains and the papacy is located inside Rome, however Rome is not the headquarters of the mythical “antichrist” of future dispensational fame.

According to Dr. Stephen Jones, these seven hills or mountains spiritually represent seven forms of government in the history of the Roman Empire: 1. Kings 2. Consuls 3. Dictators 4. Decemvirs (One of a body of ten Roman magistrates, especially a member of one of two such bodies appointed in 451 and 450) 5. Military Tribunes 6. Military Emperors 7. Christian Emperors.

“Five have fallen.” Remember this was written in the first century. In that context, the first five forms of Roman government had already fallen and had been replaced by the sixth i.e. the military emperors after the death of Nero in 68 A.D.  After Nero committed suicide there was a flurry of short term emperors until Vespasian returned from the Judah revolt and became a long term military emperor.  This was the type of government that existed when the angel interpreted the seven mountains to John around 96 A.D.
                                                
In summary:  Rev 17:9 The seven hears are seven mountains and they are also seven kings.  The kings are types of kingdom government.  Rev 17:10 Five have fallen” – 1) Kings 2) Consuls 3) Dictators 4) Decemvirs 5) Miltary Tribunes.  Rev 17:10b one is” – At the time of John the kingdom government was 6) Military Emperors.  Rev 17:10 the other has not yet come”.  The 7) Christian Emperors.  Rev 17:11 The beast that was” – The Pope.  Rev 17:11b And is not” – The Pope died in prison.  Rev 17:11c Is himself an eight king” – A restored new type of Pope with no land empire.  Scripturally, a resurrected (in this case restored) person is a new person.  Rev 17:11d yet is one of the seven” - the new restored Pope was originally a part of the Papacy linage.

The Ten Horns
Revelation 17:12-13 NET (12) The ten horns that you saw are ten kings who have not yet received a kingdom, but will receive ruling authority as kings with the beast for one hour. (13) These kings have a single intent, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.

In verse 13, according to Dr. Stephen Jones, the ten horns were ten nations or ethnic groups in Europe that did not as yet have kingdoms of their own, because they were under the control of the Roman Empire.  They are:  Bavarians; Franks; Bergundians; Alemanni; Suevi: Visigoths; Alans: Vandals; Ostrogoths; and Heruli or Lombards.  These ten regions could also be considered as the ten toes of the image of Daniel 2:41-42.  The “little horn” (i.e. soon to be Holy Roman Empire) paid mercenaries to conquer three or these areas. 

Jumping ahead to make this section more sensible, the ten horns (or nations) give their power to the “little horn” (Vatican) although three of them did not do so willingly.  “One hour” is not literal and most likely means a short span of time as compared to other occurrences.
Revelation 17:17 NET For God has put into their minds to carry out his purpose by making a decision to give their royal power to the beast until the words of God are fulfilled.

Revelation 17:14 NET They will make war with the Lamb, but the Lamb will conquer them, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those accompanying the Lamb are the called, chosen, and faithful."

During the era of the Holy Roman Empire, prior to the Pope dying in French prison, many Church members were tortured and slaughtered by the Church.  This was the time of the Inquisitions and other destructive programs.  This stopped after the Pope was imprisoned.  It could be said that God anointed Napoleon to unknowingly place a halt to the “war with the Lamb” concerning the slaughter of church people who had a different view of God and scripture than the Vatican.

Revelation 17:15 NET Then the angel said to me, "The waters you saw (where the prostitute is seated) are peoples, multitudes, nations, and languages.

Rev 17:15 verifies that Mystery Babylon (i.e. the woman and the scarlet beast) is currently a world-wide system.  Even the Amazon Indians are infected with loggers and miners.  The scarlet beast that the woman sits on is the equivalent of the waters.

Revelation 17:16-18 NET (16) The ten horns that you saw, and the beast -- these will hate the prostitute and make her desolate and naked. They will consume her flesh and burn her up with fire. (17) For God has put into their minds to carry out his purpose by making a decision to give their royal power to the beast until the words of God are fulfilled. (18) As for the woman you saw, she is the great city that has sovereignty over the kings of the earth."

The remnants of the ten horns that were ruled by the beast will be anointed by God to destroy the woman (Babylon) because God has put into their minds to carry out his purpose.

Rev 17:16 c “They will consume her flesh”.  An interesting Old Testament prophetic type of the prostitute woman being eaten is the execution of Jezebel.  She was thrown into the street and dogs consumed her flesh leaving only bones.
2 Kings 9:36 NET When they went back and told him, he said, "The LORD's word through his servant, Elijah the Tishbite, has come to pass. He warned, 'In the plot of land at Jezreel, dogs will devour Jezebel's flesh.

This Jezebel story applied to the harlot woman is purely symbolic when it comes to the actual fulfillment of prophecy in our time. The point is that the harlot system will be destroyed by the nations and the people who have been oppressed by her domination.  God will use blind unbelievers to execute justice on the persecutor.

The ten horns are united as a single beast on which the harlot sits/rides (or rules), but in the end God causes the horn beasts to turn on the harlot.  It is also important to note that the saints (the elect or the chosen) are not the ones who eat the flesh of the harlot, but the beasts that she has ruled. God uses the nations to bring about His purpose and to execute the judgment decreed by the saints of the Most High (Daniel). Hence, when we observe international events today, we ought not to condemn the nations for overthrowing the harlot. The nations may be beastly, but in the end, they are agents of divine judgment.

Babylon is Fallen, Fallen, Fallen
The final wrath of God’s destruction of Mystery Babylon (the scarlet beast and the woman) is narrated in Revelation 16:17-21 presented as the seventh bowl judgment.  This final section of the Revelation concerning the fall of Mystery Babylon is a current (i.e. right now) prophecy that is being fulfilled in real-time announced in various news reports. 

The “great city” is not literal, it is not the futurist dispensational idea of Jerusalem or a physical city at all.  So this great city (Mystery Babylon metaphorically) is symbolically split into three parts.  The gigantic hailstones may be Mr. Trump’s (and others) actions and presidential edicts to bring down the illegal immigration, the Federal Reserve, and the coming indictments but they are not literal.  His actions are causing the Democrats, the MSM, and the Hollywood scoundrels to blaspheme God, insult Mr. Trump, his staff, and the red-state deplorables.

Revelation 16:17-21 NET (17) Finally the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying: "It is done!" (18) Then there were flashes of lightning, roaring, and crashes of thunder, and there was a tremendous earthquake -- an earthquake unequaled since humanity has been on the earth, so tremendous was that earthquake. (19) The great city was split into three parts and the cities of the nations collapsed. So Babylon the great was remembered before God, and was given the cup filled with the wine made of God's furious wrath. (20) Every island fled away and no mountains could be found. (21) And gigantic hailstones, weighing about a hundred pounds each, fell from heaven on people, but they blasphemed God because of the plague of hail, since it was so horrendous.

The above mentioned earthquakes, if literal, would completely destroy the earth and every living thing.  They are merely symbolic of religious, political and governmental destruction and annihilation as they have been throughout the Revelation narration.















Sunday, September 25, 2016

Two Women in the Wilderness



  TWO WOMEN IN THE WILDERNESS

Facts, Data, and Information have been borrowed from several papers written by Dr. Stephen Jones of “The New Kingdom Order” website.

Many of you, reading this current article and previous articles such as: The Beast From The Sea  The Earth Beast   Mark of the Beast , will disagree with the assertions that are presented.  It is unfortunate that most modern minds have been preconditioned by the relatively recent stream of Scofield, dispensational, pre-tribulational Dallas Seminary induced, prophecy guidelines made famous by Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, John Walvoord, and several others.  Some may be disappointed, but there will be no locust demons stinging people, and no horde of Nephilim roaming the world slaughtering people.

The Scofield reference Bible gave rise to the so-called doctrine of Dispensationalism.  Dispensation theory spoke of an end of the Church age and a return to the Legalism of the age of the Old Covenant with a rebuilt temple and the people calling themselves Jews again offering sacrifices which is totally incompatible to the will of God.  The Church Age is not an afterthought or a temporary correction inserted by God because the Jewish leaders refused to accept Christ as the Messiah.  God predicted and prophesied of the New Covenant from the very beginning.  The Church, or congregation, is the people of God and always will be.  This return to the Old Covenant required vacating Christians from the face of the earth which thus required the invention of a pre-tribulational rapture of the Church.   

As a side note the concept of a tribulation period of 7 years is the result of an inaccurate interpretation of the seventy weeks of Daniel by employing the wrong starting date using erroneous and misleading reasoning for that particular date.  Using the correct starting date for the 70 weeks will render the end of the prophecy at the crucifixion of Christ.

A specific and direct scripture indicating a pre-tribulation rapture does not exist although some have one or another verses as an indication but they are all circumstantial at best.  This PT rapture idea creates more problems than it solves.  Very few pre-tribulation rapture believers have ever been convinced to change their opinion.

The Woman in the Wilderness

Revelation 12:5-6 NET  So the woman gave birth to a son, a male child, who is going to rule over all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was suddenly caught up to God and to his throne,  (6)  and she fled into the wilderness where a place had been prepared for her by God, so she could be taken care of for 1,260 days.

Revelation 12:1 pictures a sign in heaven of a woman with labor pains.  She gives birth to a male child, “who is going to rule over all the nations with an iron rod”.  When the child is caught up to heaven (ascension of Jesus), the woman, which is the early church of believers, flees into the wilderness for a period of 1,260 years, even though the scripture says “days” it is actually years.

The church (Roman church) came into power in 529-534 when Justinian changed the laws and reset the calendar and become the “little horn” (or extension of the Roman Empire) according to Daniel’s chapter 7 prophecy of the four beasts from the sea.  [at this time the Roman church was the only church for all practical purposes]  This is the point in time when the church (or Roman church i.e. “the little horn”) became part of the succession of empires which began with Babylon, because of its religious carnality.

The Great Whore

In Revelation 17:1 we seem to be introduced to another woman being in the wilderness.  Is it the same wilderness or a different one?  This one is referred to as “the great whore”.  Later in verse 5 the woman is called Mystery, Babylon the Great, the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.

We now have two women in the wilderness.  Are they the same woman?  Although it seems unbelievable, they are the same.  Those who place their faith in the church may have difficulty seeing them as the same woman, insisting that there were two women in the wilderness.

Revelation 17:3 KJV  So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Revelation 17:5 KJV  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

These two women in the wilderness are patterned after the Exodus experience of the Hebrews under the leadership of Moses traveling through the wilderness.  The Israelites were required to traverse the wilderness to get to the Promised Land, which they would have reached in 490 days if they had the necessary faith.  At Mt. Sinai the vast majority refused to listen when God wished to speak to them with His voice of fire.  Due to their fear of God, they instructed Moses to listen to God personally and then relay the message to them.  The Israelites lack of faith caused them to worship the golden calf only weeks after refusing to hear God speaking for themselves.  Their lack of faith and their fleshly motivation created issues for them throughout their wilderness journey.

Whereas Israel was afraid to hear the voice of God, the church under the “little horn” was not allowed to read and listen to the Word on a personal level.  They only knew what they were told by the priests.  Both Israel, conquered and deported by Assyria, and Judah, conquered and held captive by Babylon were punished due to carnal flesh, harlotry, and idolatry.  The church has been retained in the wilderness for the same issues:  carnality, harlotry, and idolatry (which is Scripturally identical to harlotry).

The majority of the so-called church has been disqualified from ruling the Kingdom of God during the Millennium.  The apostle Paul explains that only the remnant of grace known as the overcomers or the “elect” are the true chosen ones, similar to the days of Elijah when he said, “I alone am left and now they want to take my life,”  but God answered:   

1 Kings 19:18 NET  I still have left in Israel seven thousand followers who have not bowed their knees to Baal or kissed the images of him."

Quote from Dr. Stephen Jones:
So here in Revelation 17:3 we see that the church, which fled into the wilderness shortly after Pentecost in Acts 2, was not able to enter the Kingdom at that time, but like Israel, she had to spend a long time in the wilderness. That in itself is an indictment upon the church. Whereas Israel spent just 40 years in the wilderness, the church spent 40 Jubilee cycles in the wilderness.

The harlot is describes as sitting on the beast although many claim she is riding the beast which may be true.  She is not portrayed as sitting on a throne since a throne is symbolic of law and this woman is considered lawless.  She follows the carnal laws of the beast system and not the laws of the Kingdom.  The phrase “full of blasphemous names” portrays the many manifestations of immorality and lawlessness in the red beast.  Although the great harlot is much more than the fleshly church, it most definitely includes it.

The Harlot’s Description

Revelation 17:4 NET  Now the woman was dressed in purple and scarlet clothing, and adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls. She held in her hand a golden cup filled with detestable things and unclean things from her sexual immorality.

Purple and scarlet clothing speaks of royalty while gold, precious stones, and pearls speak of great wealth.


At one time, I believed these items along with those items listed in Revelation 18:12-13 spoke of clothing and accoutrements of a rebuilt Jewish temple.  I now do not believe a 3rd temple will be built and if so, the Glory of God will not be there.  It is now apparent the Roman church and its popes, cardinals, and others have attempted to somewhat duplicate the clothing and vessels listed by God in the Pentateuch as the apparel of the temple priests.  Of course, they have added greatly to the masquerade.

Although literal gold cups have been used in the Roman church, this scriptural golden cup has more to do with symbolism and prophecy.  John employs many scriptures and ideas from the Old Testament including this golden cup reference in Jeremiah 51:7.

Jeremiah 51:7 NET  Babylonia had been a gold cup in the LORD's hand. She had made the whole world drunk. The nations had drunk from the wine of her wrath. So they have all gone mad.

The gold cup was given to Babylon by God for divine judgment upon Judah and other nations.  Now God has given the gold cup to the harlot to bring judgment upon the nations of today.

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

The woman sitting (riding) on the beast is called the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth.  Harlotry is a euphemism for idolatry and abomination is a euphemism for an idol.  Therefore this harlot is the mother of all idolatry appearing in the earth.  Idolatry is not limited to worshipping false gods, it also includes submitting to the laws of the beast rather than, or above, the laws of God.

John writes of Babylon, Jerusalem, Sodom, and Egypt as being associated with the earthly Jerusalem and therefore being harlot cities.  Isaiah 23:15-17 speaks of Tyre as a harlot city.  The book of Nahum claims that Nineveh was a harlot city.  And of course, Ezekiel chapter 16 is writing about Jerusalem as a harlot city.  Many Protestant churches (daughters) also employ various tendencies of the Roman harlot church.

Drunk With the Blood

Revelation 17:6 NET  I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints and the blood of those who testified to Jesus. I was greatly astounded when I saw her.

Although Leviticus 17:10 forbids the drinking of blood, the harlot has become drunk with it.  God created blood as the emissary of the soul for the work of atonement.  The apostles had no problem with this for they write in the first Church Council:

Acts 15:19-20 NET  "Therefore I conclude that we should not cause extra difficulty for those among the Gentiles who are turning to God,  (20)  but that we should write them a letter telling them to abstain from things defiled by idols and from sexual immorality and from what has been strangled and from blood.

This apostolic edict was repeated in Acts 15:29.  However, the Roman church which strongly upheld its own Church Councils failed to recognize and enforce the very first Church Council held in the book of Acts.

To drink blood is a natural sign of a spiritual problem.  Scripture defines murder as an act of drinking blood (or spilling blood).  Therefore, when Jerusalem killed the prophets, they were in violation of drinking or spilling blood, even with the law of God threatening to cut off anyone who drank blood.  When the prophets called Jerusalem "the bloody city," they were accusing it of drinking blood, and by extension they were saying that the city would be "cut off from among his people".